Are the 7 Noahide Laws the Only Commands Gentiles Should Obey?

Both Judaism and Christianity typically teach that God’s 613 commands are exclusively for Jews to obey while Gentiles are only obligated to obey general moral laws such as the “Seven Noahide Laws”. For those unfamiliar with the 7 Noahide Laws, they are as follows:

1) Don’t worship any other god, but the One True Living God (no idols);

2) Don’t curse God;

3) Don’t commit murder/bloodshed;

4) Don’t steal;

5) Don’t commit sexual immorality;

6) Establish a judicial system;

7) Don’t eat the limb/flesh of a living animal.

Some of these principles are established by Noah as instructions to his sons after the family and animals exited the ark upon being the sole survivors of the great flood in Genesis 9 while other alleged laws are assumed. In this chapter of the Bible thought to be the basis for the Noahide Laws, Noah urges his sons and their wives to be fruitful and multiply (Gen. 9:1,7) as did God to Adam and Eve; Noah also informed his sons that the animals, the birds, and fish would be fearful of man, but man has dominion over them all (vs. 2); they can’t eat meat rare (with blood in it – vs. 3); and, lastly, they can’t murder or cause blood to be shed (vs. 5-6). If we were to go strictly by Genesis 9 alone, then, technically, these four commands would be the Noahide Laws. The Jewish sages expanded on them some to establish the seven, and various sects of Christianity have their own set of laws as well.

It is my position that neither these 4 commands found in Genesis 9, or the Jewish tradition of Gentiles just obeying the seven Noahide laws, nor the typical Christian interpretation of just moral laws, or even the 10 commandments, are the only commands a Gentile ought to obey. Rather, my position is both Gentile and Jew ought to obey all of God’s commands as they apply to them individually (i.e. men cannot obey commands for women and vice-versa, or common people can’t obey the commands specifically for the Levite priests, etc.) and one ought to obey God’s commands, not suggestions, to the best of their ability and understanding out of their love for God. If one devotes their time to find excuses or develops arguments against obeying God’s commands, therein reveals much, namely one’s heart and alleged reverence for God and His authority in their life.

In the Summer of 2020, my husband and I visited the Ark replication in Kentucky.

Let us look at a few examples of Gentiles obeying what many would consider exclusive Jewish laws or laws not listed in the Seven Noahide Laws.

Sacrifices

First, consider neither Adam, Eve, their sons, or even Noah were Jewish for the tribes of Israel and therefore, the tribe of Judah, had not existed at this point in the Genesis story and yet, God evidently commanded or, at the very least, welcomed the first family to offer sacrifices to Him. Hence, the first case of domestic violence and homicide, sadly, as Cain was jealous over Abel’s sacrifice (Genesis 4). Second, notice Noah understood the importance of sacrifices as he too offered sacrifices as soon as the flood was over (Genesis 8:20-22). Noah also made sure there were clean and unclean animals on the ark presumably for the purpose of making sacrifices and food (Genesis 7:2,8), instructions not yet documented until much later (Leviticus 1-7, 11). Likewise, many years post-flood, Abraham, who also was not technically Jewish, fashioned an altar to worship God (Genesis 12:7; 13:4,18); although the text does not specifically say he also offered sacrifices, it is inferred. Later, when Abraham’s son, Isaac, was older, God tested Abraham’s devotion to God by instructing him to, you could say, lay his idol down as Abraham set out to sacrifice his son as a burnt offering on an altar. Abraham trusted God would provide a better alternative while demonstrating he loved God even more than his miracle-baby. Consequently, God indeed had a better plan and provided a clean animal instead of Isaac (see Genesis 22). Again, all of this took place well before Jews and Judaism existed or God’s commands were documented by Moses.

As another example of Gentiles making sacrifices, in the future, after God physically rescues, regathers, and resurrects the scattered tribes of Israel and reigns on Earth (Zechariah 9-14), the surviving Gentile nations will be required to participate in making sacrifices for the Feast of Tabernacles, or Sukkot in Hebrew, according to Zechariah 14:16-21. Did you catch that? It will be required of Gentiles by God Himself to sacrifice in the future. With that said, is the command to sacrifice as a form of worshiping God exclusively to just Jews, or has God demonstrated throughout various Gentiles of the past and foretells Gentiles will be sacrificing to God in addition to Jews? Are sacrifices to God one of the Seven Noahide Laws?

Sabbath and Other Holy Days

In the previous segment about sacrifices, we briefly explored the Feasts of Tabernacles, a Feast of the LORD, and how it will be celebrated in the World-To-Come, or upon God creating the New Heavens and New Earth. In the last few verses of Isaiah 66, we also see the seventh-day Sabbath, new moon celebrations, and other holy holidays will be observed by “all flesh”, meaning all mankind. The Prophet Ezekiel also predicts during that era God’s Sabbaths and Feasts are obeyed as well as sacrifices (see Ezekiel 43-44). Also, read Isaiah 56. Notice the Gentiles who choose to align themselves with God’s chosen way and chosen ones are considered “better than sons and daughters”, meaning better than those born as Jews. The Gentiles who enjoin themselves with God’s holy covenant as Caleb and Ruth did are also brought to Mt. Zion one fine day to come according to Isaiah 56. With that said, are Feasts of the LORD, the Sabbath, and other appointed times, listed in the Seven Noahide Laws?

Notice the passage says “all flesh”, not just Jews.

Fasting

Fasting is another command not found in the Seven Noahide Laws and yet the Prophet Jonah instructs the Gentiles of Nineveh to fast as a means to demonstrate their repentance. Fasting is a central part of the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), one of God’s Holy Days found in Leviticus 23, and all about repentance.

Lying

Technically, lying is not one of the Seven Noahide Laws either, but according to Nahum 3:1, the Ninevites (see Nahum 1:1), the ones who fasted and repented as mentioned above, were sinning by lying. In other words, lying was one of the offenses that caused God to send a prophet announcing God’s disapproval with their behavior and their need to repent to be spared from God’s wrath.

Sorcery

Likewise, sorcery was another command the Ninevites evidently violated, according to Nahum 3:4, and yet, is not listed in the Seven-To-Heaven list, or list that deems a Gentile righteous if obeyed according to the traditions of Judaism. Sorcery isn’t even in the man-made summary of the Top 10 Commandments and yet clearly, a no-no, for both Jew and Gentile (Micah 5:11-14).

Unclean Food: No Bacon For You!

The vague translations of Genesis 9 make it sound like Noah’s sons can eat anything, but just the fact that Noah brings both unclean and clean animals on board the ark indicates otherwise. Moreover, it’s clear God prefers people to be vegetarians initially (see Genesis 1), but then upon sin entering the world, God allows for animals to be shed as a resource to humans for clothing, food, and a form of worship. God specifically documents what is food and not food in both Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. Furthermore, In Isaiah 65 and Zechariah 9:6-7, these passages describe a time not manifested yet (even still), a time just prior to the New Heavens and New Earth, a new way of life, being created (see Isaiah 66/Zechariah 14), and yet right up until the New Earth and New Covenant are established God still will witness and be angered by people eating abominations. Additionally, for Christians, consider this: The Book of Revelation 18:2 allegedly predicts a future event where the author describes unclean birds as being apart of this event. Just the fact that the Christian author distinguishes these birds as unclean infers the early Christians understood there is a difference between clean and unclean creatures to be eaten and not eaten – even after the cross. Read Isaiah 65:3-7 and 66:3-4, 15-18 the chapters leading up to God reigning on Earth. Still think Gentiles can eat whatever they want?

Clearly, God reveals throughout various Scriptures, albeit after carefully studying, that the Seven Noahide Laws are not the best, exclusive description of commands God expects people to obey. Moreover, consider the simple fact that Jews are “chosen” to be the light to the nations (Isaiah 42:6; 49:6) designed to teach the light, being Torah or God’s commands, to the deceived world (Proverbs 6:23; Psalm 119:18,105-106; Ezekiel 44:23-24; Jeremiah 16:19; Zechariah 8) as will God one fine day when He rules and reigns on Earth (Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-5; Zechariah 14). In those days, everyone will know who God is and what He expects (Jeremiah 31) – it will be a time when the whole new world, will “learn righteousness” (Isaiah 26:8-10) meaning Torah, God’s definition of light, His instructions on how to be the light, life, and love.

In conclusion, it seems apparent to me if certain commands were observed by Gentiles before the tribes of Israel were even established and will be observed by the world after all the tribes of Israel are reunited and re-established in the future, then obviously, they are neither done away with, as Christianity teaches, nor exclusive to just Jews, as Judaism teaches. Therefore, I do not believe the 7 Noahide Laws are the only commands Gentiles should obey, but rather, it could be a good place to start.

“For this applies to all mankind..”

Questions Every Christian or Messianic Jew Should Investigate

Since we each must give an account for ourselves and ideally should be able to explain one’s faith, I have wrestled with some difficult questions over the years all of which cumulated in this eye-opening year of 2020 vision. This, like all my thought-provoking articles, are not an attack against an individual person, but rather it is exposing what I now see is a false ideology called Christianity, specifically what God labels as idolatry, and moreover, an invitation to dig into the Holy Scriptures for oneself while pondering, praying, and pursuing such critical concepts.

Naturally, when people can’t explain or can’t overcome such objections, they become angry at the person exposing error or at the very least challenging their belief, not realizing the person, such as myself, typically are motivated by love to do so. After all, iron sharpens iron. Nevertheless, I understand the mentality, the passion, and emotion of the Christian, as I, too, was appalled and even angry upon learning such truths below – first, at the person or people sharing, and then, more appropriately my anger became directed at Christianity or idolatry in general for propagating such blatant and now obvious to me fallacies. Though I readily admit, I know not all of God’s truth, for none of us can, today, I am in complete peace (Psalm 119:165), more in love with God and others than ever and daily learning to surrender to God, His will, and His Spirit of Holiness. It has been a long process of truth seeking that eventually led me to the LORD when I thought I would be leading others to Him! You could say it’s been a journey of flip-flopped faith, though certainly not my intention when I picked the name “Flip Flop Fellowship” for my ministry. God clearly has a sense of all-knowing humor. It is my prayer these questions, as well as my various articles and testimony, spurn you, dear student of the Bible, to continue to seek Abba Father and His will for you with all your being and by continually comparing and examining your will and theology to His as defined in His Holy Scriptures. But I both confess and warn, it is not easy to lay our idols down.

As always, much love, shalom, and blessings! ~Carrie, 10.5.2020

1)What criteria did God give the Israelites regarding how to discern a false prophet, false teacher, or false messiah?

FACT: In Deuteronomy 13, God specifically instructed the Israelites to beware of and test a person based off two criteria: 1) Does the person implore the Israelites to worship any other person, thing, or other god as “God” for God alone is to be worshiped – not His son, not anybody, or anything but God. 2) Does the person teach that God’s instructions being God’s law or Torah is done away with, old, irrelevant? For Israel is only to obey God and His instructions, not man’s, not Paul’s, not Jesus’ commands, but God’s alone.

2) What are the Jews, Israel, or Twelve Tribes of Israel chosen for? “Chosen” to do what exactly and why?

FACT: Israel, being the Twelve Tribes, specifically the Jews, are chosen to make God, His name, and His Torah known. They are chosen to be the light of the world, to set the captives free, so that all the world may also experience salvation. They are chosen as God’s “Servant” (Isaiah 44:1, 21, 45:4, 48:20, 49:3, 52:13) or commissioned to instruct the world in Torah, which the Scriptures define as light itself (Psalm 119:105,130; Proverbs 6:23; Isaiah 62:1-2), the way of salvation or righteousness, and moreover, living a lifestyle of loving God and loving others. According to the prophets, eventually, in the World-To-Come/Messianic Era, they are elevated and honored while some of them are specifically commissioned to help teach Torah to the world as the world “learns righteousness” (Isaiah 26:9-10). See Exodus 19:5; Deuteronomy 6, 7:6-8, 26:17-19; 2 Samuel 7:23-24; Psalm 105; Isaiah 2:1-5; 26:1-12; 32:16-20; 33:20-24; 35:1-10; 42:6-7; 48:17-19; 49:6; 51:4-7; 52:1-2; 62:1-12; 66:5-24; Jeremiah 29-31; Zechariah 8, 12; Ezekiel 44:23-24; Amos 9:11-15; Obadiah 1:15-21; Micah 4:1-5; Joel 3; Zephaniah 3:8-20; Daniel 12:3; Hosea 14. Nearly every prophetic book foretells this glorious event and outcome for the children of Israel, wherever they are scattered to in the past, present, and future world!

3) If both Jew and Gentile can be forgiven by simply repenting and striving to keep God’s commands, which are His instructions for life found in Torah, why did Jesus have to die for people’s sins?

FACT: God has always eagerly forgave people who authentically repented. His grace has always been available well before Jesus arrived. See Deuteronomy 4:29-31; 1 Kings 8; 2 Samuel 12 (Did King David have to make a sacrifice for forgiveness of his sin?); Isaiah 1:16-17; 42:6; 43:25; 44:22; 45:22,25 ; 49:10; 55:6-7; Psalms 24:3-6; 25:6,10; 30:5; 32:1,5; 34:22; 36:5,10; 37:18,29,34,37-40; 51:1-4, 7-9 (really all of Psalm 51); 68:19; 72:12-14; Psalm 103; 119:118,132,155-156; 146:17-20; 147:11; Micah 7:18-20; Book of Jonah (notice even the Gentiles had to repent- repent from what? Did they have to have a blood sacrifice for forgiveness?). To study more passages, read this article: Always Have Been Saved By Grace

4) Since forgiveness has been and still is granted without any blood sacrifice and by simply repenting, why did Jesus need to spill his blood as a sacrifice?

FACT: God forgave people with or without blood sacrifices and /or if they only offered other items instead of blood sacrifices such as flour, money, or jewelry, when a temple was in place. See passages above in #3 as well as Leviticus 5:11-13 (flour), Exodus 30:15-16 (money), Numbers 31:48-52 (jewelry). The sin sacrifices were a tangible act in order to teach them to not forget God’s instructions/His law like requiring your kid to sacrifice their electronics when they disobey for sin has consequences – best to learn to obey Abba Father for our own good (Deuteronomy 5:29; 6:24-25; 10:12-13). To learn more, read this article: Why Jesus Didn’t Die For Anyone’s Sins (but his own)

5) Why would the unknown authors* of the gospels claim Jesus is God’s one and only son (John 3:16) when Scripture reveals the twelve tribes of Israel/the Jewish people (and their descendants) are God’s sons and daughters; therefore, God has many sons?

*scholars don’t know for certain who exactly penned each gospel, but they have an idea as to when the gospels were written: decades AFTER Jesus lived and died

FACT: When God speaks to the Israelites/Israel/Judah or when the prophets refer to God, God or the prophet often identifies Himself/God as Father inferring He has many sons and daughters – see Deuteronomy 32:6; Isaiah 64:7; Jeremiah 3:19, as a few examples. Similarly, God says in Isaiah 56 that non-Jews/Gentiles/foreigners who choose to enjoin themselves with Abba and His holy covenant by willingly obeying it (Judaism refers to this as “Jews-By-Choice”) are considered “better than sons or daughters” indicating the naturally chosen are sons and daughters while the “Jews-By-Choice”, or adopted if you will, are even more honored and also brought to Mt Zion upon being literally saved, regathered, or resurrected. Also, see Psalm 82:6 and even Jesus referred to his audience of Jews also as sons in John 10 when quoting Psalm 82:6. And yet the mysterious author of John* made it seem like Jesus is the one and only begotten son of God a few chapters earlier in John 3.

6) Why would God instruct one of His sons, since Jesus was a Jew, to die for the sins of the world as the New Testament claims when God already informed Israel no person can die for another person’s sins?

FACT: According to Deuteronomy 24:16; Ezekiel 18:1-32; 33:12-20; Jeremiah 31:29-30 (which is also what Eze 18:1-2 says), and Psalm 49:7 no person can die for another persons’ sins even in the New Covenant chapter of Jeremiah 31.

7) Why would God instruct one of His sons, much less God’s other kids, to believe God would offer His child as a sacrifice when God specifically told His kids, being the Israelites, never to offer their children as sacrifices?

FACT: God often instructed the Israelites to not mimic other religions such as offering their children as sacrifices to a god(s), or as a form of worship, and labeled such behavior an abomination. See Leviticus 18:21, 20:3; Deuteronomy 12:29-32; 18:10; 2 Kings 3:27, 16:3, 17:17; 2 Chronicles 28:3, 33:6; Jeremiah 7:31; Psalm 106:35-38; Ezekiel 16:20-21 as some examples.

8) Why are we still teaching each other about who the One True Living God is if we are currently in the New Covenant?

FACT: According to the only chapter in the Holy Scriptures that refers by name a “New Covenant”, found in Jeremiah 31, no one will need to inform one another who God is for all will know Him (see verse 34). Incidentally, most Christians seem to not notice what the ambiguous author of Hebrews pens in chapter 8:13, which says referring to the “old” and “new” covenants, “Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.” inferring the “old” covenant isn’t obsolete or done away with yet because the New Covenant hasn’t manifested just yet -obviously, since there is no world peace and everyone obeying Torah (but more on that later). Equally fascinating, is I have yet to meet a Christian (besides my former self) who realized the New Covenant isn’t activated until there is a New Jerusalem, New Heavens, and New Earth – hence, all the references to “Behold, I will do (future tense) a NEW thing..” Isaiah 43:19 How interesting God is referring to do a “new thing” upon literally saving Israel from their oppressors and restoring them all to the land of Canaan/Israel as discussed in #2.

8) Why in the New Covenant / World-To-Come / Messianic Era (the future, whatever you want to call it) are there still sacrifices if Jesus was the final sacrifice? Moreover, how can Christians honestly believe another man, namely Paul, when he says God’s laws are a curse and not to be obeyed, when clearly it is not just commanded by God, but the future of the world?

FACT: Ezekiel chapters 36-48 describe both the literal resurrection of all of Israel, regathering, and restoration of Israel, both dead and alive, to the land of their inheritance in Israel, a magnificent event nearly all the prophets describe, but hasn’t manifested no where near it’s entirety just yet. In this future era, there is a unique temple established along with sacrifices led by the ruler/prince including not just the praise sacrifices, but sin sacrifices as well (see specifically Ezekiel 43-44). Additionally, Zechariah 14:16+ informs us in the future, after God melts the earth upon literally physically saving Israel from their enemies, all the remaining survivors of the nations must participate in bringing sacrifices to Jerusalem for the Feast of Tabernacles, or what is known in Hebrew as “Sukkot”, in order for it to rain, or put another way in order for them and their economy to survive. Sukkot is in the Fall (September/October on the Gregorian calendar) and is the initiation of the rainy season. In fact, as I pen this, it is Sukkot, a festival of rejoicing, for one day, it will indeed be a whole new world full of joy and peace! To learn more about the Feasts of the LORD, read Leviticus 23. Also, in Isaiah 65-66 God describes the future and how He wants to be worshiped, as well as how He is specifically angered at those who consume pork, which He instructed not to eat in Leviticus 11; Deuteronomy 14, and describes worship as participating in the Sabbaths and festivals of the LORD in the New Heavens and New Earth (aka New Covenant). Furthermore, Zechariah 8 tells us Gentiles will be clinging to Jews to learn more about God one fine day.

9) Why would the “New Testament” and Christianity be all about propagating one must “believe” Jesus is Messiah in order to be spared from hell and go to heaven when there is absolutely no prophecy in the Hebrew Bible stating one must believe in a future Messiah in order to experience salvation much less the heaven vs hell concept?

FACT: Search the prophets out for yourself, you will not find any prophetic word regarding anyone must believe in a Messiah to be saved. But what you do read in Amos 3:7 is God does nothing without revealing it to His prophets first. Also, you will find a very different definition of salvation unfolds. Plainly said, salvation is a literal, physical experience, not solely spiritual mental ascent, while both salvation and righteousness are repeatedly linked with obeying God’s commands, His laws, His Torah, His Voice. Whereas many passages infer or directly state those who disregard God’s laws are considered wicked (Psalm 50; Psalm 119), without knowledge and will perish (Hosea 4:6). You will not find in the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh, the law and prophets where salvation is merely a mental belief in a Messiah, but rather reward is based off your conduct, the exact opposite of what the New Testament, namely Paul, teaches.

10) In the early 1990’s, did you believe David Koresh when he claimed to be Messiah? His followers claimed he performed miracles and was prophetic. He and presumably his followers were writing manuscripts to spread his good news, his message. Would you put your trust in him? How about if he and or his roommates, who all tragically and unnecessarily perished, claimed he WAS actually God? Would you pick up your cross and follow him? On what criteria do you judge a person and their message? Is not the Hebrew Bible, the law and prophets, the foundation for which all are to be judged? Hence, the very label “the law”. What makes you put your trust in Jesus, or more accurately, Paul, since Christianity is mostly based off Paul’s message and spiritual experience of seeing Jesus in the sky allegedly? Did Jesus, Paul, or other Apostles entice you to worship someone or something other than God, or worse, did Jesus or his followers indicate Jesus WAS/IS God; therefore, replacing God or elevating oneself to be as God or as part of God? Did Jesus, Paul, the other Apostles, or any of their followers, then and now, instruct you to disobey God by not keeping His law? Do you or your church have an Easter ham for dinner, as an example of breaking God’s law? Do you rest, reflect, and spend time with God and family on the 7th day or are you out grocery shopping, mowing the grass, or doing laundry? Does your church celebrate Easter, Halloween, or Christmas, but not the feasts of the LORD, His holy holidays? Why do some, if not all, denominations of Christianity claim everybody should keep the 10 commandments, but not the one about Sabbath or worshiping other gods?

FACT: Every Christian, whether Catholic or Protestant or even Messianic Jew/Gentile, knows that according to the writings of the New Testament, Jesus, but especially Paul as well as the other Apostles and the unknown authors of the gospels, elevated Jesus to be God (John 1), for Jesus to be worshiped and obeyed (Matthew 28:18; Philippians 2; Colossians 2), as well as instructed their audience, their disciples to disregard God’s laws (Galatians 3)or at the very least, the church instructs congregants to disobey most of God’s laws, the eternal law (Psalm 19, 119:142,152,160: Isaiah 2) of then, now, and the future. Hence, eternal. So with all that said, back to Deuteronomy 13, what were the two criteria God specifically said to watch out for? See #1.

“Choose this day whom you will serve.” Joshua 24:15.

Always Have Been Saved By Grace

As one who has traversed Christian circles for 43 years, “Saved by Grace” is a common phrase indicating one is saved by believing Jesus died for one’s sins and consequently, gets to experience God’s grace or forgiveness. In fact, I used to wear a hat proudly stating this very expression. Now, after discerning more and more of God’s word, and upon realizing the fallacy in the Christian message of Jesus had to die for one’s sins in order to receive God’s grace, I have discovered in this illuminating year of 2020, that we always have been saved by God’s grace if only we seek Him and His ways.

Me wearing my “Saved By Grace” hat at Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

Earlier this year, when I sought to prove Jesus is the Messiah using only the Hebrew Bible, I discovered the Hebrew or Jewish definition of salvation is different than the Christian version of being saved. You can read more about those details here in an article I penned called “What Is Salvation According to the Hebrew and Christian Bibles”. Moreover, I realized upon digging through the Tanakh (or what Christians refer to as the “Old” Testament), that God has always offered His love, grace, forgiveness, and mercy to those who genuinely seek Him and strive to obey Him. Inevitably, we will make mistakes, but all we have to do is authentically repent and try again. Look at King David’s sin of committing adultery and murdering the woman’s husband. Christians have been told only a blood sacrifice can atone for sins, but what did God say to David through the Prophet Samuel in 2 Samuel 12:13-14? God said He forgives David’s sins though there still will be consequences just as any good father would say to his disobedient child. Was there a blood sacrifice David had to make? Did he have to believe in a future Messiah? No. How about when the Prophet Jonah went to the Ninevites or Gentiles to warn them of God’s pending judgment should they not repent and turn to God. Where was their blood sacrifice for God’s grace and forgiveness?

God’s Holy Scriptures never once say anyone needs to “believe” in a Messiah to be saved, much less that one will be coming to die for the world’s sins, which would be a hugely critical prophecy to reveal, don’t you think? If God does nothing without revealing it to His prophets first, according to Amos 3:7, then we can deduce, the Christian doctrine of Jesus being Messiah who just had to die for our sins also is nothing except a replica of various pagan concepts. If you are Christian just learning of this, I know your blood is probably boiling right about now as was mine. First, you are angry at the one who enlightens you on said truth, then you become angry towards Christianity for propagating such gross and offensive errors and mourn your deception. Soon afterwards though, you encounter a peace and the lifting of a huge burden of guilt and manipulation you had been unknowingly carrying for years believing your sin caused some innocent god-man to die for you. Eventually, you will be so grateful to God for opening your eyes and rescuing you from the popular idolatry of the church. As God whispered to me one day earlier this year, “You can mourn over the lies you once believed or you can rejoice you have finally been set free from them.

It is ironic the best thing you can do for your soul and relationship with Abba Father is to flee from the church or anything related. Hence, why I feel compelled to help those still lost who think they have been found. I remember a Jewish guy telling me online through a social media platform that I was “so lost” by believing Jesus had to be a sacrifice for my sins. I was shocked by that statement, but then months later after researching some of the passages he shared as well as other spiritual concepts, I realized he was right. I was lost. But Abba Father was daily leading me into more and more of His truth, being found in His documented voice: the Hebrew Bible.

Does this psalm or any Scripture state we are doomed in our sins? Destined for hell?

I encourage you, dear reader, to dig into the following Scriptures and ask yourself where in the Hebrew Bible does it state we are destined for hell because of our sins? Where does it say we are doomed in our sins? Why would God need to send His son, Jesus, to die for one’s sins for forgiveness, when these Scriptures clearly indicate God has been forgiving people well before (and still after) Jesus? Why would God instruct His child to be a human sacrifice when He instructed the Israelites to never sacrifice their children like the pagans do? Why would God cause Jesus to die for another person’s sins when God specifically forbids such things in the law and prophets? Also, why does the famous “New Covenant” chapter state everyone will still being dying for their own sins in the new covenant (see Jeremiah 31:30)? Shouldn’t that be an opportune time to state no one will need to die for their sins because a Messiah will do so for them?

Furthermore, I realized upon studying these passages and others that God eagerly forgives those who genuinely repent, such as in King David’s case discussed earlier in 2 Samuel 12 or the Gentiles in the Book of Jonah. All one must do is strive to obey God’s instructions, His Holy Covenant, being found in Torah and expanded upon in other Scriptures such as the prophets, psalms, etc.

Please study the following passages and read my other articles:

  • Genesis 4:8-16 (God forgave and even protected Cain)
  • Exodus 34:6-7
  • Deuteronomy 4:29-31
  • 1 Kings 8 (notice both Jews and Gentiles are forgiven even without a temple)
  • 2 Samuel 12 (God forgave King David)
  • Book of Jonah (How is it the Gentiles could get forgiveness without a blood sacrifice?)
  • Isaiah 1:16-17; 42:6; 43:25; 44:22; 45:22,25 ; 49:10; 55:6-7
  • Isaiah 56: Notice even Gentiles/Foreigners who align themselves with God’s Covenant (i.e. keep Sabbath) are brought to Mount Zion one day and honored even more so than natural-born Jews for doing so.
  • Jeremiah 29:11-14; 33:3,6-8, 19-26; 50:4-5
  • Ezekiel 11:16-21; 16:60-63; 18:9, 19, 21-24; 33:12-20; Chps 36-37
  • Micah 7:18-20
  • Lamentations 3:22-23
  • Psalms 24:3-6; 25:6,10; 30:5; 32:1,5; 34:22; 36:5,10; 37:18,29,34,37-40; 51:1-4, 7-9 (really all of Psalm 51); 68:19; 72:12-14; Psalm 103; 119:118,132,155-156; 146:17-20; 147:11
  • Proverbs 1:23; 3:1-8
  • Why Jesus Didn’t Die For Anyone’s Sins (but his own)
  • Why the New Testament Is Not the Inerrant Word of God

Again, these are just some passages, but plenty enough to reveal that many over the course of history always have been saved by God’s grace.

Things to ponder: What does God think of people who believe Jesus, a man, is God when God specifically warns against such things in Deuteronomy 6:13-14 and elsewhere? What becomes of those who may keep God’s commands, such as the “Ten Commandments”, but still believe and worship a false god like Jesus?

Shalom and Blessings!

Carrie R. Turner, 10.3.2020

Why Jesus Didn’t Die for Anyone’s Sins

Christianity teaches that Jesus, the perfect sinless lamb-of-Gd had to die for our sins so we can be forgiven and eventually go to heaven. Christianity also touts that it is only through a blood sacrifice a person can receive atonement for any sin, whether intentional, unintentional, past or future sin. It is propagated to congregants that all of us, whether Jew or Gentile, are eternally doomed unless we believe Jesus is the Messiah who died and overcame sin and death through the resurrection. Guilt, condemnation, and fear are the key ingredients while dangling promises of heaven and eternal life to motivate people to believe and cough up cash in the offering plates. These beliefs come from various places throughout the New Testament, which just by cleverly labeling it the “New” Testament sends the message anything before it is old news, invalid, and irrelevant. Out with the old, in with God’s new and improved way of doing things. And yet, Malachi 3:6 clearly states God does not change. We do. With that said, let us explore what the “Old” Testament, or Hebrew Bible, has to say about sin, sacrifices, forgiveness, believing in the Messiah to be saved, etc.

While it is true that all of man sins eventually as the Apostle Paul writes in Romans 3:23 and it is true sin has consequences as he further explains in Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death.”, it is not necessarily death or blood of an animal or blood of a human in Jesus’ case that can make it right or to put in Biblical terms, make atonement. It can be confusing, however, when a Christian cherry-picks verses, as they (formerly we) seem to specialize in doing in order to propagate a doctrine. Christian missionaries and ministers often point to Leviticus 17:11 which in part states, “For it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.” That is their AH-HA GOTCHA moment. And yet, when studying sacrifices and other passages found in the Hebrew Bible, we see God provides a variety of methods to teach His people a tangible lesson about sin and forgiveness; moreover, He provides grace and mercy well before Jesus and still today regardless of Jesus.

First, understand, there are many different types of sacrifices, most of which are a form of praise and worship and have nothing to do with sin such as the burnt offering, peace offerings, the daily morning and evening offerings, various offerings during the feasts of the LORD, etc. In fact, the sin offering and trespass, also known as guilt offering, is only for unintentional sin, meaning you, your household, the congregation, or the nation accidentally violated God’s law without realizing He had a law against said thing. By the way, did you know according to the Christian Bible or New Testament, it defines sin as breaking God’s law or His Torah (see 1 John 3:4)? Oddly enough, most Christian circles teach God’s laws are irrelevant and can be freely broken. Hence, ham sandwiches for Easter! See what God has to say about pork in Leviticus 11, Deuteronomy 14, and Isaiah 65-66. Is it not strange Christianity purports someone had to actually suffer and die for the forgiveness of their sins, but it is perfectly OK to keep sinning by abandoning God’s laws after believing in such things? What a self-centered and disrespectful theology!

Second, please study and know there is no sacrifice for intentional sin. Understanding this concept is critical. I encourage you to get a Strong’s Concordance or Google the terms unintentional and intentional in the Bible. You will not find any sacrifice for intentional sin for if you knowingly and purposely sinned, you went through God’s judicial process and would have been eventually stoned or cut-off (same thing) should the account of two or three witnesses manifest. The sin offering sacrifice is for if a sin was unintentionally committed against the LORD whereas the trespass offering was if a person unintentionally sinned against another person and by default the LORD as well. You will notice in Leviticus 4-6, which is the primary chapters discussing these concepts, those who unintentionally sinned against their brother/neighbor/another person had to make restitution to the person they accidentally sinned against. Hence, love God, love others concept taught in both the Hebrew and Christian Bibles. While reading about the trespass offering, notice in Leviticus 5:6-13, God’s word says that if a person cannot afford to bring a lamb, goat, turtledoves or a pigeon, they can instead simply bring flour for forgiveness. Flour for forgiveness?! What? Had the Church marketed that concept, many more would probably be filling the pews. Bake sales come to mind! Ha ha! My point is there is no blood in flour so based off Christian theology, how could that person be forgiven? Nevertheless, Scripture reveals that person shall be forgiven indeed (see vs. 13). The overall message, God is teaching His people is, yes, sin has consequences, and He uses the concept of sacrifices whether it be ideally a costly sacrifice of an animal or even flour to reveal even unintentional sin is not to be taken lightly and yet forgivable upon repentance. Now learn your lesson and don’t let it happen again.

A sacrifice in of itself cannot save you no more than taking communion saves you. While on that topic, is it not odd Christianity, particularly the Roman Catholic Church and some other denominations, teach that cracker is literally Jesus’ body and the wine is literally his blood, and yet Leviticus 17:12-14 clearly states anyone who eats blood is to be cut-off? Moreover, do you think the Creator of animals and the One who had humans eat veggies in the Garden of Eden really desires us to kill animals? No, He wants us to want to obey Him in both our private and public life. See Psalm 40:6-10, which the anonymous author of Hebrews seriously twists and misquotes to fit their agenda of making it seem like a human sacrifice was required, which is just a copy of the pagan religions since before ancient Israel existed and carried on for thousands of years (and still today). Compare Hebrews 10:5-8 to the Psalm he is allegedly quoting in Psalm 40:6-8. So much for the “inerrant” word of God! The sin sacrifice of animals is simply a tangible physical means God uses to reveal His righteousness. God loves memorials and using things to help us remember His instructions for living – see Numbers 15:37-41 as another tangible physical reminder.

But let us return to the lesson of the sin sacrifices. Just as you take away your kids’ electronics or TV time when they sin, you are insisting they sacrifice something with the hopes of teaching them what they did is not permissible in your eyes and they ought not to do it again. You, like our Heavenly Parent, hopefully are fair and just upon deciding what they must sacrifice on an age appropriate and offense appropriate level or affordability level. Flour.

Third, understand sacrifices cannot be made in your backyard or just anywhere you please, but rather can only be made in the place the LORD chooses being in the Temple in Jerusalem (see Exodus 20:24; Leviticus 17:3-6; Deuteronomy 12:13-14, 16:5-6), which at this point in time does not exist. Nevertheless, notice what King Solomon proclaims in a prophetic prayer as he dedicates the first temple. In 1 Kings 8:22-53, but especially highlight verses 44-50 for it is there we see Solomon describes a variety of scenarios for both Jew and Gentile to get forgiveness including when Jews are dispersed in various lands, taken captive, etc. with no capability of accessing the Temple, all they must do is repent and God will forgive them! Lamentations 3:22-26 as does Psalm 50-51, Psalm 103, Isaiah 1:16-20 and numerous other passages throughout the Hebrew Bible clearly state all one must do is pray to God and repent for their sin and He will gladly forgive them! I dare you to search this out for yourself. Explore terms like sin, forgiveness, salvation, etc. in the Hebrew Bible – an enlightening picture will unfold. You may want to read my article about how the Christian and Hebrew Bibles define “salvation”.

Fourth, research and know there is not one place in the Hebrew Bible stating one must believe in a Messiah in order to be saved; however, there are numerous places stating those who obey God’s commands are literally physically saved (see Psalm 50 as one example) while other passages indicate rewarded in the World-To-Come or what some may refer to as the Messianic Era or even the New Heavens and New Earth. In fact, Isaiah 56 seems to indicate non-Jews also known as foreigners have an even higher status should they choose to honor and obey God’s holy covenant. Judaism teaches that this passage of Isaiah 56 as well as other examples such as Ruth or Caleb are referring to Gentiles who convert to Judaism and strive to obey God’s covenant given to Israel at Mount Sinai. Furthermore, have you ever considered what Israel, or the Jewish people, were actually chosen for? Chosen to do what exactly? Jews, as God’s chosen people, are chosen or commissioned to be the light of the world, bringing Torah to the nations (see Isaiah 2:3, 42:6-7, 49:6; Proverbs 6:23; Psalm 119:105-106 as a few examples) primarily by leading in love since the Torah defines how God wants us to love Him and others as well as promoting social justice according to concepts found in Torah (Deuteronomy 10:12-13, 11:1; 16:20).

Did you know in the Messianic Era or World-To-Come, the world is shocked to discover the Jews, who have been afflicted and hated for thousands of years, had it right and will be elevated one fine day (Jeremiah 16:19-21; Isaiah 52:13-53:1; Isaiah 60) so much so that many will grab onto a Jew recognizing God is with them wanting to know more (Zechariah 8:23) and that Torah will be taught by an anointed ruler, which is often referred to by many as a “Messiah” (which really just means “anointed one”), and Torah will also be taught presumably by Jews to the world (Isaiah 2; Micah 4)? Moreover, the nations must also comply with Torah, God’s voice, His law one day INCLUDING keeping sacrifices and if they don’t, their land won’t see rain and therefore will have no crops and suffering economy (see Zechariah 14:16-21). Additionally, please study Ezekiel 36-48 where it describes the resurrection of the dead, the regathering of Israel, all twelve tribes, to the land of Israel, God’s Torah being established and obeyed, as well as sacrifices being held and even led by the prince, presumably what some refer to as the Messiah (see Ezekiel 44-46). Notice in Ezekiel 45:15-25, the “prince” makes sin offerings for the people, but only for unintentional sins as discussed previously. If Jesus is the one and only Messiah or “prince”, the perfect sinless lamb of God who made a sacrifice once and for all as the anonymous author of Hebrews proclaims, why does the Tanakh prove otherwise? This Messiah figure, which Messiah simply means “anointed one” and was used very rarely to describe kings, priests, and prophets and even a Gentile king (see the Hebrew of Isaiah 45 and Daniel 9) rather than one singular “Messiah”. This prophecy of sacrifice in the final temple discussed in Ezekiel is made by the resurrected prince/king David (see Ezekiel 34:23-24; 37:24; Jeremiah 30:9; Isaiah 9:7; Hosea 3:5) and is undeniably in the New Covenant, where we will no longer need to teach one another about the LORD (Jeremiah 31:31-34) because His Name, His Presence, His Light/Torah, His Voice/Torah are publicly made known and not up for dispute or discussion at that time and David, the prince/king is reigning once more. Also, you will find there is no sinless Messiah described in the Tanakh for it clearly states there is no one without sin according to 1 Kings 8:46 and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Moreover, if we currently are in the New Covenant, as Christianity teaches, why are we still having Bible Studies- that contradicts both Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 misquote of Jeremiah 31? If we are currently in the New Covenant, when did the massive resurrection occur? If we are currently in the New Covenant, why aren’t all Jews dwelling in Israel as the prophets repeatedly describe? Why isn’t the whole world obeying Torah? Because it hasn’t happened yet, obviously.

Lastly, while still in Jeremiah 31, notice verse 30 where it says, “But every one shall die for his own iniquity.” That’s strange don’t you think? Why doesn’t it say but Jesus died for everyone’s iniquity and now we live happily or heavenly ever after? Why doesn’t it say this here in Jeremiah 31 particularly when it is discussing the World-To-Come or during the New Covenant? The entire chapter of Jeremiah 31 is prophesying the future full regathering and restoration of Israel one fine day in the Messianic Era and yet still speaking of people dying for their own sin (not Jesus) – being responsible for their own sin not trusting in Jesus to do it for them.

You see, had the Church studied the Hebrew Bible, instead of conveniently attempting to do away with it to sell the avoidance of hell, while elevating themselves and lining their pockets, they would know no one can die for another person sins. The law and prophets clearly speak to this several times as if giving plenty of advance warning of a false religion that will teach such concepts – most likely because this concept of human sacrifices has been a pagan practice since before ancient Israel even existed! Please review Deuteronomy 24:16, 2 Kings 14:6; Psalm 49:7; Ezekiel 18 and 33, all of which speak to the concept of a human cannot die for another human’s sins. Every one is accountable to God for themselves. So why do we think Jesus, a human, can die for our sins? Also, now knowing the law and prophets speak nothing towards such concepts of a Messiah dying for our sins, nor we need to believe in a Messiah to be saved, and we now understand human sacrifice for atonement of sin is forbidden, plus forgiveness is granted simply by repenting when a temple is not in place, and when it is in place, flour can be used as a substitute for blood, etc. and if God does nothing without revealing it to His prophets first as Amos 3:7 states, why would we suddenly think God changed not only His pure language (see Zephaniah 3:9) from Hebrew to Greek, did away with His instructions found in Torah, and yet didn’t reveal it to His prophets of such dramatic changes or that a person must believe in His Son, the Messiah, in order to be forgiven and saved?

Ironically, I discovered this and so much more when I attempted to write an article proving Jesus is the Messiah using only the Old Testament. Needless to say, upon doing so, over many astonishing and grievous months, Abba Father “flip-flopped” my faith as His word clearly declares Jesus Did Not Die For Anyone’s Sins but his own!

Carrie R. Turner, 8/30/2020

Intentional Sin VS Unintentional Sin: KNOW the Difference

(Recorded Sep 23 2019) In the last episode of Season 3, Carrie provides you with a plethora of scripture revealing how G-d views intentional sin verse unintentional sin. Loaded with eye-catching GIFS and graphics, you’ll want to grab a pen, paper, and you Bible! May the Spirit of Holiness renew your mind and transform your heart through this critical teaching.

To read the lengthy article discussed in this video, visit this link (warning it will make you think):
https://flipflopfellowship.com/2019/03/13/will-we-again-perform-sacrifices-why/

***Are You In Covenant Yet With Abba Father Through His Son? Read About God’s Plan of Salvation with a nautical twist! https://flipflopfellowship.com/plan-of-sailvation/

Why Don’t We Perform Animal Sacrifices Today?

For Christians, and probably many other religions, Facebook is a place to engage with people who believe as you do and to engage with those who don’t. Hopefully, we can still respond in love even to those who disagree with our theology. For how we respond to others, demonstrates how mature we are in the love of Yeshua. Topics of politics and religion can easily stir others to anger; hopefully, if anger manifests, it will be a righteous anger, like Jesus demonstrated when the so-called worshipers were making the temple into a social and profitable experience- In doing so, they made the temple and themselves unclean. Keep this in mind as we will discuss this concept more at a later time.

Recently, I wrote a lengthy response to a Facebook friend’s opinion about God’s law being irrelevant and done away with. I pray I effectively explained some critical truths overlooked by many and the reader(s) dug into Scripture for themselves while diligently seeking Abba (Father God) on the matter. To read that article stemmed from a Facebook post, click here. In the meantime, a different Facebook friend shared my article with a comment asking a valid question. As for me, I love digging into the word of God and seeking Abba’s heart on these concerns, so I welcome the questions for all of it makes each of us wiser and stronger in our faith. Below is the Facebook friend’s comment in blue italics and my response in bold red letters.
Facebook Friend’s Question/Comment:
“To those that believes this all I can say is where is your alter and your animals that you are sacrificing for your sin? Cuz the Torah is full of very specific directions for sacrificing animals in very specific ways for very specific sins. So if God has not annulled any of his word, if nothing has changed, then you better be sacrificing animals on an altar somewhere or your sins are not covered.
But my sins, on the other hand, are covered by the death, burial, resurrection, and Ascension of Jesus. He changed everything. So I no longer have to sacrifice animals on an altar, which the Torah is full of instructions for, because God instituted a new covenant, New Testament and as his word says in the New Testament if the Old Testament was sufficient there would have been no need for a new testament, New Covenant. Heb.8:8-13, 9:15,12:24″
My Response:
Let’s tackle the first paragraph for that is the most straightforward of the two.
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According to Torah (God’s law/First 5 Books of the Bible), the animal sacrifices, as well as all the other sacrifices not discussed above, including the various sacrifices performed at Passover or the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot), for example, can only be done:
#1 in the place where Yahweh (God) chooses, namely in the tabernacle/temple {in Jerusalem} (see Exodus 20:24; Leviticus 17:3-6; Deuteronomy 12:13-14, 16:5-6). In other words, sacrifices cannot take place in our back yard, in our homes, or wherever we want, etc. Worship isn’t about what we want, it’s about what He wants. Unfortunately, the tabernacle/temple, according the specifications outlined in Torah (starting in Exodus 25+), no longer exists. The original tabernacle was constructed by the Israelites while wandering the wilderness in Moses’ day followed by Solomon’s temple, a brick and mortar building, which was destroyed by the Babylonian’s in 587 BC, as predicted by the prophet Jeremiah as judgment by God for not adhering to God’s Torah. Later, Ezra and Nehemiah helped reconstruct the temple after the 70 year captivity of the Jews relinquished. That temple was destroyed in 70 AD by the Roman Empire, as predicted by Jesus/Yeshua. The various ceremonial sacrifices can only be offered in the prescribed temple as outlined within the Torah. So since none exists since 70 AD, the sacrifices ceased at that time, just as they did when the Jewish people were in Babylonian captivity (no temple). Moreover, every day and in every season, we are to be a living sacrifice, walking, talking, temples housing the Spirit of Holiness (Romans 12; 1 Corinthians 3:16-17).

#2 The sacrifices can only be orchestrated and performed by Levite priests, who all stem from Moses’ brother, Aaron. See Exodus 28-29.
Due to the fact that there is no physical temple in Jerusalem, per the detailed outline of Torah, nor active Levitical priests able to perform their role because of not having a temple, animals sacrifices cannot legally manifest. (Note: The Temple Institute has created all the artifacts for the third temple and they/Jewish people today have been rehearsing such events anticipating a third temple to be built in the near future).
In summary, the various ceremonial sacrifices performed daily and during the Feast of Yahweh can only be performed in a temple as outlined in Scripture located in Jerusalem where the Levite priest can resume their appointed role. Until a temple is reconstructed, presumably on temple-mount, where Solomon’s temple and the temple of Nehemiah’s day is believed to have resided, no ceremonial sacrifices can manifest.
Ready for part 2 of the Facebook comment/question? Stay tuned for a follow up post!